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  Trailer for 2013 Candace Conti / Rick Simons interview, now on YouTube

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi guys.

  i have uploaded the following trailer for a forthcoming series of interview videos.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ebwpjm6wa.

  the interview, which was filmed on 10th february 2013, was based on questions provided by posters from this forum, specifically from this thread.... .

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  Thank you so much.

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  May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  finally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.

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  6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.

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  When my husband was an elder he jumped when ever anyone needed him. When we were newly married we did not have a marriage he was gone all the time, taking care of the flock. He used to tell me that if I did not like it I should never have married an elder, I did not know being married to an elder meant that I was dirt to everyone in the hall.

  I was young and stupid, I thought I was his wife and that I mattered some, I did not matter when it came to the congregation, I was always second or third or so down the line. My needs never played any part in our marriage only the needs of the hall. I was not asking for a lot just dinner once a week together would have been nice but he was the only elder for most of the first four years of our marriage and I was way down the list of people who mattered.

  Then he had a major heart attack while he was conducting the school. The other elders let me drive him alone to the hospital and only one elder and his wife came up to the hospital afterwords. NO one called the next day to see how I was doing much less my husband. They had him back conducting the school the next week even though it had been a major heart attack and he had, had surgery to put a stent in his heart.

  His second major heart attack two years letter I called the PO's Cobe's wife while I was driving to the hospital and she told me she could not come to the hospital to be with me as she had to go out in service. No one came and the Chaplin who meant me at the door was shocked to learn I was a JW. She told me she had never seen anyone who belonged to a church be left alone like I was as no one came up to be with me. My husband was the school overseer at the time.

  Also when I was first married the CO told me that I could have a husband in the new system as Jehovah needed him now when I talked to the CO about what I hard time I was having being newly married and never having any time together.

  And just one more point one of the reasons his health is not so great I feel is that he did not have the money for good food when he pioneered which was for 17 years, as he was a window washer and lived on nothing to pioneer. Granted he has other factors that caused his heart attack but not having money for food was not a help. He ate as cheep as he could.

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  Distrust and paranoia among faders

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys.

  i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.

  i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.

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  I learned my lesson the hard way here on JWN. Last year I had a poster ask for a WT, we pm'ed back and forth seems she lived in my city and knew many of the same people I did. I thought she was OK she seemed really nice and sane in her pm's. Then one day I made a post and she totally came unglued, totally attacking me in my post, she would not stop just kept coming at me attacking who I was as a poster, etc.

  It totally unnerved me as I am not df'ed nor do I want to be. I love JWN but you truly have to be careful. I have not a clue what set this person off but it scared me. I am really gun shy now even to post after that.

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  Misquotes, Lies and deception in Watchtower Publications

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.

  most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.

  there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.

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  Candace Conti: WTS Notified Re Opening Appellate Brief

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to the docket, wts was notified that their opening brief has not been timely filed.

  their appeal will be dismissed if there is no further activity by february 22, 2013.

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  What is your religious belief now?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

  as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

  this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

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  Agnostic, its funny because even as a small child of four and fives years of age and going to all the meetings, when I first heard what an agnostic was at that age it made perfect sense to me and I thought to myself that is what I feel also.

  God never seemed to care, and there was always so much pain in my life no matter how hard I prayed or tried to do good God never cared.

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  Annoying 2/15 WT - Don't Be Stumbled- your Mind Just Misunderstands !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another wt article which causes jw's to doubt their own perceptions of reality.

  ) in this particular article titled " for those loving jehovah, " there is no stumbling block " - the wt society stoops to new, or rather re-hashed lows to insinuate that most if not all jw's really misunderstand causes of stumbling as it's just their minds that are imperfect, messed up, or gone entirely anyway.

  the first abhorrent bit of information here describes a witness man who " fought " with feelings of being homosexual and of course the elders thought they had the perfect antidote to keep him from his alleged " abnormal " desires.

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  Thanks Flipper for posting this. I just glanced at this WT when my husband gave it to me and was ready to explode when I saw that about the poor brother with homosexual tendencies. All he had to do was pray more, study more and go out in service more. It just made my blood boil to read that. It was exactly what the elders told me to do about my problems with being molested as a kid. I needed to pray more, study more and go out in service more.

  Oh and also by the way I needed to also call all the pedo men in the hall brother and I was told that I hurt the feelings of one of the pedophiles because I would not listen to his talks. One of the elders went out of his way to let me know that, and also the CO told me I needed to get a handle on my feelings about this child rapists and I needed to accept that he had a right to RIDE AROUND IN MY CAR and suck up my gas because my husband was an elder. FORGET THE fact that I had been molested as a kid. I wish I had, had the courage to ask the CO and elder at the time if the little girls that this man put his penis in their mouths, if they felt hurt also. But I am sure that the CO and elder could care less about little girls, just so long at this poor pedophile's feelings was not hurt was clearly all they cared about. After all the elder and CO would not even take the court and police records I tried to give them so they could see for themselves what he had done to the girls one of which by the way was his own five year old daughter. I did mail them the records and I have proof that I sent them.

  I should have known that all I needed to do was just pray more study more and go out in service more. STUPID ME. The answer was just so was simple.

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  Extremely ironic anti-bullying video for kids on JW.org

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a link to the society's latest video entitled "beat a bully without using your fists":.

  http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/whiteboard-animations/beat-a-bully-without-using-your-fists/.

  as soon as it's up on youtube i'll post the video on this thread.. .

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  This video just truly makes me cry. I was very bullied when I was first married and pioneering in the hall by the other married sisters my age.

  My husband had been asked to go to the hall by the CO because the hall needed help. He had been there for a year before we got married.
  I can only describe my days in field service as total HELL. The other sisters would totally bully me. Sometimes when I would met for service and my husband was not with me as he had elder things to do the sisters would mock me and tell me in a very condescending you just go home we do not have room for you. Then there were times when they would take me with them in service and make me feel like such dirt the whole day. Just saying belittling things to me the whole day. I am very afraid of dogs and being in the county every house had dogs some of them were really mean. I have been bit over six times in field service. I will never forget this one house that the sisters made me go to. I knew from being there in the past that they had this super mean dog, sometimes the dog would be tied up but other times he would be running lose. It was my turn to get out of the car, and I begged and pleaded with the sisters not to make me go. The sisters were so mean and spite full telling me I did not have any faith, and that I was not truly serving Jehovah, that He would protect me, etc. I finally got out and started to the door. The dog tore around the house when I was half way to the house and he was ready to kill me. I started to run back to the car and just barely made it when the dog bit into my skirt and I jumped into the car and all the sisters were just laughing at me. I was so not funny. I was so hurt that day and I still am writing it now. I was not funny.

  I was so very depressed it was unreal. I truly was suicidal. I talked to my husband about it all, he is 17 years older then I am. The sisters all were so sweet and flirty around and him he told me that he did not believe me. That I was just making it all up that there was no way they were treating me like that.

  Since the hall was in the country and all we did was drive around with no purpose but to waste time my husband and I spent a ton of money on gas and of course all the sisters wanted to use our car especially when my husband was out so all of our money as a couple went to field service.
  Yet these sister were always going to the movies, getting their hair done, going shopping, going out to do fun things together, etc. They were always going on date nights with their husbands. Something I gave up in the first year of our marriage because first we did not have the money to do anything but second and more to the point my husband never had anytime to spend with me. I would make sandwiches and have coffee and beg my husband just to go for a walk and then some elder crisis would come up in the hall and he would dump me for the elder stuff.

  I even spoke to the CO about how I was losing it and the CO rebuked me telling me that Jehovah needed my husband now and I could have him in the new system which was going to happen very soon. The CO totally treated me like I was a selfish Which.

  That video truly just makes me sick.

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  The story of Bo Juel Jensen - the man behind the Anti-Watchtower media campaign in Norway

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi guys.

  richard e. kelly has kindly contributed a great article to jwsurvey.org on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/bo-juel-jensen-could-he-be-watchtowers-worst-nightmare.

  richard tells the story of bo juel jensen, an ex-witness who has been doing marvellous work in raising awareness of watchtower child abuse mishandling in norway.. as with most child abuse victims, bo's story is a disturbing one.

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  What an amazing story, I am so glad there are people out there who have the skills that Bo has and that he is using them.

  
  Way to go is is all I can think to say.

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  Mouthy needs a hug

  by carla in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi grace,.

  i'm sorry about your family not being around (seeloubelles christmas plann thread) so i thought we could give you hugs here!

  not the same but..... a merry christmas to you!

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  (((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))) Grace and Merry Christmas.

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